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John Russell
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Initially Posted - 07/28/2010 :  06:19:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Laura Dekker given permission to try sailing challenge


John Russell
1999 C250 SR/WK #410
Bay Village, Ohio
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britinusa
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Response Posted - 07/28/2010 :  13:10:01  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Crazy isn't it.

My current take on this type of record is subject to change.

However, I suggest that it's more of a challenge for a 40 to 70 year old to sail around the world single handed than for a 12 year old or a 90 year old.

The 12 year old has no understanding of the dangers or any fears of the undertaking.

The 90 year old doesn't give a s$%t.

But the 40/70 year old has a completely different take on it.

Paul


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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 07/29/2010 :  19:25:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For everyone who is crazed (one way or the other) by either Abby Sunderland's attempt or prior and future attempts, you might want to read a piece in Points East -- which is a "down east" publication on sailing. In the current (August 2010) edition Dodge Morgan -- a curmudgeonly former record breaking solo circumnavigator -- has in interesting spin on Abby's attempt, as well as Robin Lee Graham's successful as well as other attempts to sail around the world at a "tender" age. While not always agreeing with Dodge's view, he is very perceptive and has experience most of us wish we had.

I grew up idolizing (and still do) Robin Lee Graham's solo circumnavigation and look at some of the more recent attempts as more than problematic. After reading Dodge's piece I am rethinking some of my thoughts regarding the whole subject.

and . . . Regardless of where you live and/or sail, Point's East is a fine publication

Peter Bigelow
C-25 TR/FK #2092 Limerick
Rowayton, Ct
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Tradewind
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Response Posted - 07/30/2010 :  06:08:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dodge Morgan has written an interesting perspective on Abby's attempt, good article from someone who's been there.

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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 07/30/2010 :  07:00:06  Show Profile  Visit Chris Z's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here is the magizine online if anyone is interested.
http://issuu.com/pointseast/docs/pointseast_august_issuu

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 07/30/2010 :  07:51:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting article. I don't think he has kids. I've never met a "16 year old woman", or, a 16 y/o that could rightly be described as "not a child" as he said. "16y/o" and "woman" is simply an oxymoron. It insults the women I've known and shortchanges the teenagers. I've met a lot of responsible kids but none that had the maturity, experience and the other intangibles that we would describe as adulthood. When you make comments based on a faulty premise, the whole thing falls apart. That's the case in this interesting article.

He's right when he said that the quest to be the youngest 'round has been "carried too far".


John Russell
1999 C250 SR/WK #410
Bay Village, Ohio
Sailing Sandusky Bay on Lake Erie


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Edited by - John Russell on 07/30/2010 07:51:36
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 07/30/2010 :  08:36:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of life's observations has been that behind every over achieving "kid" -- regardless of sport or activity -- is an egotistically driven and nagging parent. The "normal" parents with mature and talented kids who excel that I know seem to have far more realistic goals and aspirations.

Peter Bigelow
C-25 TR/FK #2092 Limerick
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Response Posted - 07/30/2010 :  08:54:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by bigelowp

One of life's observations has been that behind every over achieving "kid" -- regardless of sport or activity -- is an egotistically driven and nagging parent. The "normal" parents with mature and talented kids who excel that I know seem to have far more realistic goals and aspirations.
Amen. ...and aren't totally focused on achieving personal fame and adulation.

Peter, you know a significance to the number 53 in your town... That was what both of our girls aspired to in their teens, and achieved--with support from us, but nothing more. It was their thing.

Dave Bristle
Past member, Chief Curmudgeon, and current Association Port Captain, Mystic, CT
DPO of C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage
Now on Eastern 27 Sarge (but still sailing).

Passage, Mystic, and Sarge--click to enlarge.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/21/2010 :  09:33:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
She's on her way.


John Russell
1999 C250 SR/WK #410
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Peregrine
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Response Posted - 08/21/2010 :  12:50:47  Show Profile  Visit Peregrine's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It is glorious to see youth that expects and assumes immortality and and sad that as I age I dread my mortality.


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Edited by - Peregrine on 08/21/2010 12:54:01
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/21/2010 :  13:57:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My daughter will leave for Europe in a couple of weeks. She's a Junior in college and will be doing a semester at Oxford. My level of anxiety for my very smart, very responsible 20 year old is high enough. I asked her if she would have been ready at 14 to stop in remote foreign locations at 14. She laughed.

It's hard for me to say this but, I think it would be better if she were attempting a non-stop. A 14 y/o alone in sometimes questionable ports of call is probably more stupid and dangerous than the sailing. These are naive parents with a more naive child counting on luck to bring her through. I hope they're real lucky.


John Russell
1999 C250 SR/WK #410
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At Ease
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Response Posted - 08/22/2010 :  13:27:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If it was my daughter I'd say "no," I think it's an absurd undertaking for a 14 year old girl. However, since her parents approved it, fine, but the over zealous government needs to stay out of it...none of their business. It's up to the parents, not the government.
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